Which is better, Cloverway's or Dic's treatment of the Dub?
(Please note, some of the longer replies were edited for length.)
I've been thinking about this same question a lot since the dub
came out, and after having rewatched some ancient tapes I never
got around to taping over which have my favorite DIC episodes on
them, I finally decided I like DIC better, much as I hate to admit it.
I know people would probably throw stones at me for saying this,
but the reason I like it better is because at times DIC gets the
emotion in the episodes better. For one thing I'm much more likely
to laugh during the DIC dub. Most of the episodes I rewatched at
least got a chuckle once. On the otherhand, just the other week I
tuned in to watch episode 109 since it's one of my favorites which
has never failed in the original version to have me laughing most of
the way through, so I figured Cloverway couldn't ruin all the humor.
However I didn't laugh once throughout it.
DIC also got the emotion of some of the sad parts captured well too.
Not all of them of course, but at some points. When Zoicite died I
think her voice actress captured the emotion wonderfully (Malachite on
the other hand... but I'm talking about good things here). When Nephlyte
died, despite Molly's horrible accent, it still made me feel bad as well.
And as for the season one episode finale, it's horrible. We all know that.
And I avoid it like the plague. However, the first time I ever saw it, way
back when before I ever got on the internet to look up Sailormoon and found
out about the original Japanese version, watching the finale made me feel
exited and scared and sad, and the fact it had enough impact on me that I
remember those feelings, should say something for it. Cloverway's dub just
hasn't touched me that way yet.
A few smaller things are that I like a lot of the lyrical music (NOT the opening),
and I actually like the transformation music better in the DIC dub then it the
original *dodges rotten tomatos*
Of course to be fair to Cloverway, it's nice to hear the original background
music in most cases, I bounded around the house with joy when I realised Hotaru's
name was kept, and Reenie's new voice actress is much better then the old one, but none
of those things are enough to make me like it better.
Well, since I'm pretty much a purist, I don't care for either.
Both are adaptations: DiC took the anime Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon and
turned it into a show for preschoolers aimed at teenagers. One: DiC (Not
Cloverway exactly...) can't seem to handle the simple concept of death.
Don't let me even start with "Day of Destiny."
Cloverway, I'll admit is a tad better, but really: They seem
to have the inconsistency thing going. Especially for Jupiter (One of my
faves in the original!) and Neptune/Uranus. They cut out a few seconds of
Hotaru's fit in episode 112, and nudity, homosexuality, - oh, yes.
Plotlines were screwed up, and the voice acting is awful.
Serena, Amy, Lita, Luna, Amara...ho boy, I could go on and on. Mina's and
Artemis's don't bother me, and neither does Michelle's. Raye's is probably the
best outta the bunch, but it pails in comparision to Tomizawa Michie. I
think that DiC/Cloverway don't have translations, just simply look at the raw
Japanese and take out anything offending/annoying/'bad tasted'/etc. and put it
all together. For those reasons, I just don't like the NA dub.
I hate DiC cuz they cancelled
SatAM (Sonic), but this is my honest unbiased opinion.
Each has their good points: Dic had a fantastic dub
job, but the info was overly censored. Cloverway on
the otherhand had an OK dub (poor Mercury!), more
"correct" info, but a questionable translation(Mini
Moon?!:( ). But the big thing that sets Cloverway
apart is the music. All of it is the exact same thing
as the originals :). I could rant on and on about
DiC's attack names(flaming Mandalla sounds cooler than
mars celestial fire suround) or cloverway's
questionable names(Amara, Michelle,Trista, but why not
change Hotaru's?). But in a nutshell , cloverway is
Both dubbers aren't that good at all. I guess I'm
only saying that because I've actually seen the
Japanese version of Sailor Moon. If I had to pick
which is closest to the Japanese version, I'd say that
Cloverway is. A lot of the episodes of Dic were more
like adaptations of what the show appeared to be.
Dic is actually more consistent in names than Cloverway
will ever be. And although Cloverway keeps the
original songs, I dislike it because it's so strange
hearing Japanese in an English show. Cloverway has
really bad voice actors. Although I like the voices
of Raye, Rini, Michelle, Hotaru, and Darien the
majority of them really suck. It's especially bad
when you can tell that the voice actors are trying to
imitate the previous ones.
Overall, I'd say Cloverway's done better.
I like how Cloverway kept the original music, and, as far as I know, at
least, haven't cut single episode. The BGM for Saturn is so cool!!!
Of course, it still has it's bad points. It's more inconsistent than
Dic. Serena's new voice is obnoxious. Rini's is cute, though.
All in all, Cloverway is truer to the original, but kind of
a sloppy job.
A lot of people have been saying that Cwi has done a better job because
they made less cuts and kept the original music. This isn't all true. Cwi
has made plenty of cuts. The first cut I noticed was in the very first episode
Mina was going to punch Artemis and that was cut. There have been enough
cuts. Transformations are still air brushed.
Cwi has the worst voice actors. Serena sounds like Mickey mouse on
crack. Amara has no emotion and Hotaru sounds all shakey. Pluto has been
made into a valley girl. Face it guys CWI is
just as bad. There is bimbo slang to. ex: Mina when she first met Haruka said,
"What a hunkasaurus!" What person says "hunkasaurus"? Pluto: As if like
I would give you the pure heart crystal!
And there are more things like this. DiC didn't keep the original voice
actor and made Zocyte a girl. Cwi mad Haruka and Michiru cousins. People bash
DiC for cutting out episodes for no reason. People don't bash CWI because
they kept the music. They both did a awful job.
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